[Vince Angulo]

I have this happen with our Cerner feeds — the Cerner segment organization doesn’t always follow the groupings that Cloverleaf variants default to.

I end up running the input message through the HL7 testing tool to verify which group Cloverleaf is pulling segments into.  In particular segments like NTE and OBX which may appear in a number of different groups.

[Vince Angulo]

This was long time ago (v5.4), and I don’t have the detailed results anymore, but here’s my recollection.

What I did was create a few file to file interfaces.  One with a tps proc to filter on ADT types, one using an xlate, and one using a reg exp in the routing.  I believe I was filtering out merge and delete transactions (A34/35 and A29).

Created a file of 20K messages, ran them through each interface. This was on our test server with almost no other interfaces competing for resources. (AIX).

If I recall correctly, the tps proc was faster by several percentage points.  Routing edged out xlate, but only modestly so.

[Vince Angulo]

Thank you Todd!

[Vince Angulo]

sorry the copy and paste will not put in the entire join statement, and the edit won’t let me type them in either.

If anyone is familiar with this please e-mail me at vincent.angulo@chkd.org and I can provide the entire code clause.

 

• This reply was modified 2 years, 10 months ago by Vince Angulo.
• This reply was modified 2 years, 10 months ago by Vince Angulo.

[Vince Angulo]

In the VRL tool, go to the Options menu, Global and you can define delimiters in that dialog box. They’re called Global, but they only apply to current VRL.

[Vince Angulo]

A brute force way to do this might be to concat a string of carets to the last value.

[Vince Angulo]

We don’t use this, but I believe the Secure Messenger add-on is required leverage this type of connection.

[Vince Angulo]

Thanks Jim, I was pretty sure that would be the case.

For me it’s a maintenance convenience.  Since I haven’t run into the HL7 version with different numbers (yet), I can find, say, the patient name, by searching 00108 and find everywhere the translate touches that field.  This is esp. useful as we have one developer with a quirky organization style…

Over time, I’ve become really familiar with the numbers and it’s quicker than trying to search a field using the # notation — I don’t have the PID(0).#5 on the tip of my brain — if that makes sense…I guess that’s my quirk 🙂

[Vince Angulo]

I haven’t found anything useful and had to contract with Infor for implementation assistance.

The resource I was assigned would not help me understand how to use the tools and insisted on doing the work himself at a pace that I could not keep up.

It’s not helpful, but was my experience…

 

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[Vince Angulo]

We cannot browse above above the site directory.

But we can type in a full path in the Outbound Directory to access our attached storage.

[Vince Angulo]

if “filter” is the value of the inbound  OBX#3, then it should work.  If “filter” is the result of the table output, then the IF criteria needs to use the outbound OBX#3 value, i.e., it should be preceded by a tilde/~.

[Vince Angulo]

We also use SMAT as the source of truth for this.

We’ve tried saving the ACKs to SMAT as well, but have had issues with it working consistently — probably something wrong in my build, we’re still fine tuning it.

It would be helpful if I could tell when the process writes the message to SMAT.

I’m guessing it’s sometime after State 14, but can’t see anything in an ‘enable_all’ process log that says the message is being written to SMAT.  Does anyone know where this happens?

[Vince Angulo]

As long as the $new_name variable does not change with every transaction, if you check “Append data” in the file protocol Outbound Properties, it should work.

[Vince Angulo]

I try to answer when I can.  Of the four of us in our org that work with Cloverleaf (1 SysAdmin, 3 Developers), I think only two of us read the new posts.

Organizationally, even beyond the interface team, there’s not a lot of participation in collaboration sites.  Beside Cloverleaf we have Epic AND Cerner and it’s quite rare that someone posts a query and even less likely that anyone offers answers.

I think most of the people that work here find it easier to open a service request with their vendors than rely on the user community.

[Vince Angulo]

Our experience with infor support is that “it depends on how beefy the server or LPAR is”, but anytime we have an issue, the answer is “that’s too many.”

I’ve also recently been told that a web services thread “has to have it’s own process.”

If anyone can point to documented recommendations, I’d be interested in seeing that too.

 

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