[Chris Brossette]

I like the ability to see the type of thread…pdl, file, etc….but having the name enclosed in the graphic made it easier to read and document.  But I guess with the new graphics display, it is not possible to include the name.

Not going to CUE myself, hard to justify cost vs return unlike old days.

We will just have to get used to the new display for now……

[Chris Brossette]

Vince….added it to my client.ini and did not make a difference…..but I did not see that in my 5.7 setup….

[Chris Brossette]

Jaye,

I just found this myself today as I started with 5.8 Rev5…..I would hope this ‘enhancement’ is reversed in Rev6.  The view with thread names enclosed is much easier for everyone here…..

Just wondering if there is a variable somewhere than can be set to correct this….

Chris

[Chris Brossette]

Luke, The one thing you have to be concerned with is matching the result back to order in the EMR.  The sending system may have an order number but when you interface the order into the lab system, it might generate one of its own.  So the result would have a different number and not match back.  Also, you have to be concerned is how the billing for the tests are handled.  Will they be clinic-billed or will the hospital have to bill for them?  This brings another layer of complexity when you have a hospital account number and a EMR visit number on the same order….

Several questions to ask before you get too deep into the project…..

[Chris Brossette]

Is the cd drive actually working….can check with the following command…

# lsdev -Cc cdrom

cd0 Available 40-60-00-1,0 16 Bit SCSI Multimedia CD-ROM Drive

It must be ‘Available’, if not then you could run the cfgmgr command below…

# cfgmgr -v

This could make it available……

[Chris Brossette]

We use VNC to connect to most of our Windows servers.  It can be setup to use AD for login and password.  If you VPN into your network, then you can load this on your home PC.  No problems with performance.

[Chris Brossette]

Nightly I zero the message count but before I do that I run the hcimsiutil command like below….

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hcimsiutil -dd fr_3m_apr | grep Msgs | grep In >> /tmp/thread_stats

hcimsiutil -dd to_mps | grep Msgs | grep Out >> /tmp/thread_stats

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Then I import the thread_stats file into excel and have it produce the totals.  There may be an easy way to create the command lines but I just have a batch file I built and run nightly.

Counting the msg file is a good idea if you keep a file for every thread and we do not on some because of how we use the thread.

Good Luck,

Chris

[Chris Brossette]

Dwight, if you strong with Solaris, you might want to see what versions of Cloverleaf are supported on Solaris with X86 hardware.  Cost savings with hardware with the familiarity of your OS.  Other than that, Linux on X86 hardware is your next best choice for financial savings.  We have Cloverleaf on AIX and a IBM p-Series server – it is a rock-solid platform.  Stay far away from Windows, what every you do.

[Chris Brossette]

Call McKesson, if you have support through them, they should be able to help you.  And if not, they can call Healthvision to get an answer.  Been in the same boat and the call ended up at Healthvision before it was resolved.

[Chris Brossette]

McKesson customers have the option to get training through them, but I have found the Quovadx/Healthvision training more broad and less speciific to a vendor.  You also have the chance to meet others outside the McKesson sphere of influence and broaden your contacts when working on other applications.

[Chris Brossette]

We have 2 live sites with 13 processes and 113 threads.  These are mirrored in test, train and development.

We have 4 on our team – me as team manager and 3 interface specialists.  We unfortunately do more than interface work – application and department support.  My time is split between managing the team, interface projects, AIX server admin, etc.

Plenty of hands but too many ‘other’ tasks that distract from interface development.  I try to protect my team members from unnecessary tasks but we all have to wear many hats.

[Chris Brossette]

What are the server configs?  Processors & memory?  Could the 5.6 upgrade require more memory to execute?  We are on IBM JS-20 Blade servers and would like to keep these for another couple of years before upgrading.  We have not had any issues with 5.4 and our next upgrade will be to 5.6.

Thanks…..

[Chris Brossette]

Bob,  I would start out with a comparison of the stability of the different operating systems available…..Windows, AIX & Linux.  As for Cloverleaf on Windows, we have several versions that vendors have supplied with their applications and when we have a problem with the interfaces, it is usually directly related to Windows.  We end up rebooting the windows servers and sometimes rebuilding the databases……if you are looking for more work to do (care & feeding) then windows is the way to go.  

As for processing power, you could run Cloverleaf on p-Series Blade server (JS-20/21) from IBM and still have a fairly low cost of hardware.  You could not get this much power from a comparable server running windows…..as for Linux, there are several users on Clovertech that could add greatly to this thread and hopefully they will respond.

Good Luck on your discussion with management, one of my most compelling comments is whether you want a system that is able to run for a year without rebooting or have to reboot monthly with 30-60 minutes of downtime (or more), depending upon the number of interfaces you support.  

Also, I have found that the development of interfaces is easier on the AIX side rather than Windows.  It takes me less time to develop, debug, test and implement interfaces on AIX vs windows.

Hope this has been of some help………

[Chris Brossette]

Hi Lester,

I think what you are looking for is a cookbook or standard way of doing interfaces between applications.  Unfortunately there is not just one way of doing things.  When we moved to Cloverleaf from Datagate several years ago, we had a consultant develop some of the first threads for some applications…..from there our team learned from what he had done and then using his threads as models and the level 1 education, we converted the rest of the Datagate to Cloverleaf.  It took us some time and we made several mistakes but we were able to learn ‘Cloverleaf’.

When I added a new person to the team, we had a more experienced integration engineer be his mentor as he learned Cloverleaf (after level 1 class).  The new person was able to glean information from the experienced person and have him as a resource as he developed his fist interfaces.

The suggestions by Jim are a good way for you to understand and document the interfaces as you are designing and building them.

Good luck from everyone on Clovertech….

Chris Brossette

DB/Integration Manager

MS Baptist Health Systems

cbrossette@mbhs.org

[Chris Brossette]

Here’s my take on it….sends the file as an attachment….and ftp’s the file to a server….

#

# SET PATH

#

PATH=/hbo/jaanew:/hbo/jaasav:/usr/bin:/etc:/usr/sbin:/usr/ucb:/home/hci/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/sbin:.:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/scripts

#echo “jaa_adt_copy”

export PATH

ALL=”cbrossette@mbhs.org mboyd@mbhs.org rclower@mbhs.org“

S=”JAA ADT”

#

VALID=`ping -c 1 -q 10.49.56.71 | wc -l`

if [ $VALID -eq 0 ]; then

echo `date +%H:%M` > /tmp/timestamp

mail -s “JAA FTP Transfer Failed” cbrossette@notes_bhs < /tmp/timestamp        exit fi echo “open 10.49.56.71” > /tmp/ftptmp.scr

echo “user jaaftp jaa1ftp” >> /tmp/ftptmp.scr

echo “close” >> /tmp/ftptmp.scr

ftp -inv < /tmp/ftptmp.scr > /tmp/ftp_out

FTPSTAT=`grep “Login failed” /tmp/ftp_out | wc -l`

if [ $FTPSTAT -eq 1 ]; then

echo `date +%H:%M` > /tmp/timestamp

       mail -s “JAA FTP Login Failed” cbrossette@notes_bhs < /tmp/timestamp        exit fi # # copy the file to jaasav # cd /hbo/jaanew JAAFILE=”jaa”`date +%y%m%d`”.txt” JAALINE=`wc -l $JAAFILE` JAALINECNT=`cat $JAAFILE | wc -l` if [ $JAALINECNT -eq 0 ]; then # echo `date +%H:%M` > /tmp/timestamp

#       mail -s “JAA No messages” cbrossette@notes_bhs < /tmp/timestamp        exit fi NEWFILE=’/hbo/jaanew/mail_jaa’ echo “From: star_root” >$NEWFILE

echo “To: $ALL” >>$NEWFILE

echo “Subject: $S” >>$NEWFILE

echo “MIME-Version: 1.0” >>$NEWFILE

echo ‘Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary=”~-~-~-~-~”‘ >>$NEWFILE

echo “” >>$NEWFILE

echo “–~-~-~-~-~” >>$NEWFILE

echo “Content-type: Application/text; name=$JAAFILE” >>$NEWFILE

echo “Content-disposition: attachment; filename=`basename $JAAFILE`” >>$NEWFILE

echo “Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT” >>$NEWFILE

echo “” >>$NEWFILE

cat $JAAFILE >>$NEWFILE

sendmail -t <$NEWFILE rm $NEWFILE # cp $JAAFILE /hbo/jaasav echo “JAA ADT file ( $JAAFILE )has # of lines in file: $JAALINE ” > /tmp/chgmsg

#

#

# ftp the file to the bhs002764

#

echo “open 10.49.56.71” > ftptmp.scr

echo “user jaaftp jaa1ftp” >> ftptmp.scr

echo “put $JAAFILE” >> ftptmp.scr

echo “close” >> ftptmp.scr

ftp -inv < ftptmp.scr > http://ftp.log

rm $JAAFILE

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