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    Gary Atkinson
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    Hello and Happy Thanksgiving

    What do other sites do for disaster recovery?  From what I have been told we have an off site that stores our back-ups daily.  If we had a disaster and needed to recover the engine what would all be involved?  We are on 5.5 rev1 on AIX 5.3.  

    Thanks!

    Gary

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    • #62865
      garry r fisher
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      Hi Gary,

      It depends on how you do your recovery. The simplest way is to build a box, install Cloverleaf, recreate your sites using siteinit and then restore the site directories from backup. I tend to backup just my sites for this purpose.

      I also do full backups of the box but I find this method easier. You just have to ensure you copy a site after any changes.

      Regards

      Garry

    • #62866
      Richard Hart
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      Gary.

      If we had to use our dev server if we lost the prod (AIX HACMP) servers, we would execute the same thing

      1. create the site

      2. install our backup, which is taken from prod on a site basis every week.

      This is the main way we migrate as well.

    • #62867
      garry r fisher
      Participant

      Gary,

      One thing to remember is that you mustn’t backup the exec directory as this will be recreated for you by siteinit and at runtime.

      Regards

      Garry

    • #62868
      Gary Atkinson
      Participant

      Thanks for these tips!  8)

    • #62869
      Robert Milfajt
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      Restoring a back up at another site is a decent plan, but there is one thing you may want to consider.

      If there were any messages stuck in the engine during the disaster, which could be a handful if all systems were go, or a bunch if a receiving system was down, you need to make sure you recover those messages prior to turning on the normal feeds, especially on those threads where the order of messages received is critical.

      In the case of recovering a system from a backup, these messages are not present in the recovery database.  This recovery by hand is not impossible, but can be time consuming.  It involves comparing what was last received by each recipient system vs. what was sent from the senders.

      In the case of a clustered system with shared disks (DASD or SAN), the recovery database comes over to the fail over server and no messages are lost.  No manual recovery is needed.

      Hope this helps,

      Robert Milfajt
      Northwestern Medicine
      Chicago, IL

    • #62870
      Matt Estrella
      Participant

      Great topic – quick question:

      What specific files/directories should be backed up?

    • #62871
      Russ Ross
      Participant

      If you do come up with a list of directories and/or files to backup I’ve been finding the rdist command under AIX very useful for keeping a copy of directories and/or files in sync across platforms.

      Russ Ross
      RussRoss318@gmail.com

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