Digests

[Jim Kosloskey]

I received my first digest today.

It is different and I am still coming to grips with what I received.

Anyone else have any experiences to report?

email: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com 29+ years Cloverleaf, 59 years IT - old fart.

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[Rick Brown]

Hi Jim,

It is definately different.

[Jim Kosloskey]

I am not complaining about the digests. I think it is an excellent idea.

I just need to get familiar with it.

I set up for every hour (since there is not a lot of activity currently). I would possibly set up a different interval with more activity.

email: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com 29+ years Cloverleaf, 59 years IT - old fart.

[Rick Brown]

/agreed

So you like the format they come in?

[Alan Fleming]

Jim Kosloskey wrote:

I am not complaining about the digests. I think it is an excellent idea.

I just need to get familiar with it.

I set up for every hour (since there is not a lot of activity currently). I would possibly set up a different interval with more activity.

I have mine set up for 1 hour. I would like that to be only during normal hours if that werwe possible for the future.

[Rick Brown]

Thats a great idea Al!

Right now I wouldn’t have time to make this big of a change.  This might be something I could look into in the future though.

Thanks for the suggestion.

[Michael Lacriola]

I’m having difficulty “seeing” what the topic is between all the links that are sent with the digests. Anyway to make it a bit cleaner?

[Scott Lee]

I too am having trouble reading the digests.  I have held off commenting as I was trying adjust to it and also see if I could put my finger on what the problem is but I think Michael has hit on it…

I’ve tried both the html version and the plain text version. The html version was not formatted by my email client (MS Outlook) so it was really bad.  The text version is better but still it is difficult to scan quickly.  With the old system, I could quickly scan the subject line of a message and decide if it was related to a subject that I knew enough about to help or if it was something I wanted to learn more about.

Also in the digest, I am seeing “&nbsp” quite often within the text.  This makes it even harder to read.

[Scott Lee]

Also, on the Forum Index page, is there a rhyme or reason some of the quovadx logos down the left side of the page have a dark gray background and others have no background?

[Brian Goad]

Scott,

They Dark or grey icons indicate that a new post you have not viewed has been added. The other indicates no changes.

Brian

[Rick Brown]

I will look into trying to change the css style sheet for the digest format.  I think if I can make the Topic text brighter it will resolve some of these issues.  Some email clients might not display it properly at all, thus the text version.

The dark logo indicates there is a post that you haven’t read yet.

I will look into adding a spell checker.

[Brian Goad]

I just got the new one and It looks MUCH better, I can actually determine what is going on, but can’t help but think that when this board gets as busy as the listserv the e-mails is going to be HUGE.

[Rick Brown]

Brian,

I haven’t changed anything yet.  Did you change a setting?

[Brian Goad]

No, I have not changed anything. I just forwarded the e-mail with a very readable format. The other e-mails require alot of work to read. I can forward one of those as well if you need it.

Brian

[Rick Brown]

It appears that Brian’s digest settings were set to send in TEXT mode.  

Make sure you guys have your digests coming in HTML format if at all possible.  It looks a whole lot better that way.   😆

[Brian Goad]

Actually Rick my Digest are currently set to HTML (and have always been, as I have not changed any options since configuring) and I recieve both a text version and an HTML version.

[Alex Puzikov]

Brian Goad wrote:

Actually Rick my Digest are currently set to HTML (and have always been, as I have not changed any options since configuring) and I recieve both a text version and an HTML version.

I agree with Brian.

I have same setup HTML – ONLY but periodicaly recieve a partial html formated message.

here it’s header – I hope this helps.

Code:

Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
Received: from chexsmtp2.CHBOSTON.ORG ([10.1.102.167]) by chexv1.chboston.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211);
Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:15:28 -0500
Received: from TUMMMS1.CHBOSTON.ORG ([10.1.102.144]) by chexsmtp2.CHBOSTON.ORG with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211);
Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:15:27 -0500
Received: from 134.174.20.63 by TUMMMS1.CHBOSTON.ORG with ESMTP (MMS
SMTP Relay (MMS v5.6.2)); Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:15:08 -0500
X-Server-Uuid: 8467E0AF-3949-415A-8709-3683A41709D9
Received: from bashie.quovadx.com (unknown [198.68.51.5]) by
mail1.childrenshospital.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CB9FFFD for
; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:10:30 -0500 (
EST)
Received: by bashie.quovadx.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)
id ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:48:56 -0600
Received: from 10.40.10.4 (198.68.51.21 [198.68.51.21]) by
dfwmail.quovadx.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service
Version 5.5.2657.72) id FWPP6Q97; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:17:08 -0600
Message-ID: <98b934bc68f3ad0183718a86e5832950@clovertech.infor.com>
From: Cloveradmin
To: Alex.Puzikov@childrens.harvard.edu
Subject: Clovertech
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 21:15:10 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)
X-WSS-ID: 6E289AA61X43586322-01-01
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Return-Path: CloverAdmin@quovadx.com
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2005 02:15:27.0004 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA5CA5C0:01C52904]

[Ryan Boone]

I would rather receive entire messages via email like before rather than shortened digests. I tend to read a lot of the postings and dislike having to click on a link and open the browser each time I want to read more. Any way to make that available as an option? I know other “groups” (like Yahoo! groups) will send you the entire message if you desire.

[Scott Lee]

Ryan Boone wrote:

I would rather receive entire messages via email

I agree.  It is a pain to bounce back and forth.

[Robert Milfajt]

So I got my first digest today, using the default HTML format and all.  I would like to make some suggestions from what I received and how it all worked.

1.  The link back to the web page didn’t work.  I clicked on Digests, entered my username/password, then got a subject not found error.  I had to navigate here manually.

2.  The sections aren’t all together, in my digest this AM, I had the Digests topic in five separate sections, although they were in chronological order.  I think it would be better to have one grouping for each topic, and read through all messages on topic at one point.

I’m sure I’ll have more later.

Robert Milfajt
Northwestern Medicine
Chicago, IL

[Rick Brown]

Robert,

Let me know if you continue to have the broken link problem.  I haven’t seen this before.

I will look into how the list is sorted.

[Scott Lee]

Scott Lee wrote:

I’ve tried both the html version and the plain text version. The html version was not formatted by my email client (MS Outlook) so it was really bad.

I switched back to html and MS Outlook formatted it correctly this time.  It does look MUCH better in HTML.  But it would still be better to include the whole message rather than just the first couple of lines.

[Debra Downs]

My links work only about 1 out of 10 times.  The rest of the time, I don’t see anything, just continually trying to connect to the page.  It takes so long that I cancel and open IE and go to the wesite manually.

I’m also seeing very long wait periods within the website.  Again, it takes so long to bring up the page I’m looking for that I close down and try again.  Sometimes it works on the second try, sometimes I have to start over reopening IE 3 or 4 times before I get where I want to go.

This also happens when I try to submit a reply – having to try 2 or 3 times reconnecting and retyping before I am successful submitting.

[Jim Kosloskey]

Debra,

I am getting very good response times.

Perhaps it is an issue at your location.

email: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com 29+ years Cloverleaf, 59 years IT - old fart.

[Brian Goad]

I my reponse is quick also.

[Scott Lee]

I received another html digest that Outlook did not format for me.  Very hard to read.  I compared the header of this digest with one I got yesterday that did format correctly.  Here is the one that did format correctly –

Quote:

Received: from cmhmail.quovadx.com ([63.174.67.10]) by scmcmail.st-claire.org with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55)

id 1QBHW9Q1; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:45:11 -0500

Received: by cmhmail.quovadx.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)

id ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:52:32 -0500

Received: from 10.40.10.4 (198.68.51.21 [198.68.51.21]) by dfwmail.quovadx.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72)

id FWPP6R0N; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:47:00 -0600

From: Cloveradmin <CloverAdmin@quovadx.com>

To: srlee@st-claire.org

Subject: Clovertech

Return-Path: cloveradmin@quovadx.com

Message-ID: <3ce23918715f31ee7231a00b8e8f6dd5@clovertech.infor.com>

Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:45:00 -0600

X-Priority: 3

X-MSMail-Priority: Normal

X-Mailer: PHP

X-MimeOLE: Produced By phpBB2

MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-type: text/html;

And here is the one that did not –

Quote:

Received: from bashie.quovadx.com (bashie.healthcare.com [198.68.51.5]) by scmcmail.st-claire.org with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55)

id 1QBHW0GA; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:44:59 -0500

Received: by bashie.quovadx.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)

id ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:18:46 -0600

Received: from 10.40.10.4 (198.68.51.21 [198.68.51.21]) by dfwmail.quovadx.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72)

id FWPP6S1P; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:47:01 -0600

Message-ID: <3cedbf8341fd82bd9897d19f8d9c07dc@clovertech.infor.com>

From: Cloveradmin <CloverAdmin@quovadx.com>

To: srlee@st-claire.org

Subject: Clovertech

Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:45:00 -0600

MIME-Version: 1.0

X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72)

Content-Type: text/plain;

charset=”iso-8859-1″

I notice the Content-Type (the MIME type?) is different between them.  One is html, the other is text.  I think this gets set by the sending system doesn’t it?  Why would they be different?

[Jodi Agosta2]

Hi All,

I am still having some trouble with the digest. Sometimes it formats correctly other times I get it without formatting and that makes it difficult to read. Also when I click on a link it takes me to the sign on screen even after multiple times of checking the box to sign on automatically.

I like the idea of the digest also. I am still very much the student and read most of the postings to learn how other people are doing their sites and what kinds of solutions they come up with for the various challenges. Right now I am finding the Digest a bit of a challenge. I don’t mind having to click on the link if it would pull me directly into the message and its related replies. Please let me know what else I have to do to set this up.  I think in the end I am going to like this method better once I learn how to navigate in it.

[Anonymous]

I also get some digests that are HTML and others that aren’t.  As far as I can tell, the settings should be sending only the HTML ones.

[Jodi Agosta2]

Hi All,

It says in the FAQ that we can get the first 150 characters of the message or we can get  300 and 600 or we can get the whole message. Does anyone know how we set that up? I like the digest but I would also like to see the whole message…at least for a while.

Thanks,

Jodi

[Rick Brown]

I have this hard coded and it can’t be changed.  I did this to prevent the emails from becoming too large.  I will monitor it as we go along and may change it based on the data I see.

[Jodi Agosta2]

Thanks Rick. I will adjust. Is there anyway for me to quit having to log in in each time I click on a link?

[David Caragay]

I’ve read some good comments and suggestions in this topic.  One that I really would like to see implemented would be the ability to receive the entire message with the digest emails.   The first few lines does not give me enough information.  I  would rather not have to jump back and forth between msoutlook and I.E.  

Rick, any thoughts on this request?  

Thanks

[Rick Brown]

This has been hardcoded to keep these emails from becoming too large.  I will continue to monitor this.

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