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  • #51778
    Jason Bond
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    Just curious how others arrange their healthcare interfaces into Processes and Sites.  We have ADT, Lab, Rad, Imaging, EMR, RX, all the usual interfaces.  Is there logic to organizing them a certain way?

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    • #71726
      Vince Angulo
      Participant

      I’m attaching a diagram we did when broke up from one single site to multiple sites.  The diagram is our PAFM (Patient Access Finanacial Managment) site.  It contains processes for ADT, Registration, Abstracting, Schedules and Charges.  We have a second CIS (Clinical Info Systems) site for clinical systems (Rx, Reference Labs, Rad/PACS, Transcription, etc) in which the threads and processes are similarly organized.

      Hope this helps.

    • #71727
      Richard Hart
      Participant

      We have one site per application.

      snd/rvc are extenal

      in/out are internal (inter-Cloverleaf)

      Here is a PAS site

      Process         Connection                          State Proto Status Count  Started            







       

      top_prod_rp     cap_prod_rp_adt_out                 up    up           0      03/05/10 10:27:39  

      top_prod_rp     ccm_prod_rp_adt_out                 up    up           0      21/05/10 09:18:18  

      top_prod_rp     cdc_prod_rp_adt_out                 up    up           0      03/05/10 10:27:51  

      top_prod_rp     cdr_prod_rp_adt_out                 up    up           0      03/05/10 10:27:54  

      top_prod_rp     cwb_prod_rp_adt_out                 up    up           0      03/05/10 10:28:03  

      top_prod_rp     eds_prod_rp_adt_out                 up    up           0      03/05/10 10:28:06  

      top_prod_rp     fdw_prod_rp_adt_out                 up    up           0      20/05/10 10:27:41  

      top_prod_rp     har_prod_rp_adt_out                 up    up           0      03/05/10 10:28:16  

      top_prod_rp     pma_prod_rp_adt_out                 up    up           0      03/05/10 10:28:19  

      top_prod_rp     ris_prod_rp_adt_out                 up    up           0      03/05/10 10:28:25  

      top_prod_rp     sol_prod_rp_adt_out                 up    up           0      03/05/10 10:28:29  

      top_prod_rp     top_prod_rp_adt_rcv                 up    up           0      02/11/09 09:43:24  

      top_prod_rp     top_prod_rp_adt_snd                 up    up           0      02/11/09 09:43:44  

      top_prod_rp     ult_prod_rp_adt_out                 up    up           0      21/05/10 09:03:09  

      Here is a RIS site

      Process         Connection                          State Proto Status Count  Started            







       

      ris_prod_ih     ccm_prod_ih_lab_out                 up    up           0      21/05/10 09:16:38  

      ris_prod_ih     ris_prod_ih_adt_snd                 up    up           0      10/05/10 21:25:54  

      ris_prod_ih     ris_prod_ih_lab_rcv                 up    up           0      22/03/10 07:25:52  

      ris_prod_ih     ris_prod_ih_lab_smt                 up    up           0      02/11/09 12:36:35  

      ris_prod_ih     top_prod_ak_adt_in                  up    up           0      02/11/09 12:36:38  

      ris_prod_ih     top_prod_fh_adt_in                  up    up           0      02/11/09 12:36:35  

      ris_prod_ih     top_prod_ke_adt_in                  up    up           0      02/11/09 12:36:34  

      ris_prod_ih     top_prod_km_adt_in                  up    up           0      02/11/09 12:36:38  

      ris_prod_ih     top_prod_os_adt_in                  up    up           0      02/11/09 12:36:37  

      ris_prod_ih     top_prod_pm_adt_in                  up    up           0      02/11/09 12:36:39  

      ris_prod_ih     top_prod_qe_adt_in                  up    up           0      02/11/09 12:36:37  

      ris_prod_ih     top_prod_rk_adt_in                  up    up           0      02/11/09 12:36:33  

      ris_prod_ih     top_prod_rp_adt_in                  up    up           0      02/11/09 12:36:35  

      ris_prod_ih     top_prod_sw_adt_in                  up    up           0      02/11/09 12:36:34

    • #71728
      Russ Ross
      Participant

      I tried to attached an Excel 2007 spreadsheet that I created to help with doing a cloverleaf upgrade on that production server but was unsuccessful this morning.

      It lists all our sites by categories as follows:

      admin sites

      batch sites

      receiving/inbound sites

      distribution sites

      grouped sites

      sending/outbound sites

      mock sites

      golive sites

      It also shows the interface names in each of those sites except for the mock sites so I would know what customers to contact when upgrading that site.

      I’m not sure if the spread sheet will add much benifit to you beyond the groupings I mentioned above.

      If you do get into the thread naming standards here are some of the naming conventions I can recall we use:

      ib_ (inbound thread from a foreign system)

      ob_ (outbound thread to a foreign system)

      ls_ (leap send to another cloverleaf server)

      lr_ (leap receive from another cloverleaf server)

      js_ (jump send to another site on the same cloverleaf server)

      jr_ (jump receive from another site on the same cloverleaf server)

      hs_ (hop send to another cloverleaf process in the same site)

      hr_ (hop receive from another cloverleaf process in the same site)

      mock_ (interface that pretends to be foreign system during extended downtimes

      dump_ (interface that appends messages to a dump file)

      que_ (interface that writes one message per file to a directory)

      load_ (loads file(s) at a throttled rate from a directory)

      rs_ (resend messages to a foreign system that has been down or NAKed something)

      grab_ (intercept a message between a hs_ -> hr_)

      return_ (return a message between a hs_ -> hr_)

      Russ Ross
      RussRoss318@gmail.com

    • #71729
      Jason Bond
      Participant

      thank you everyone, that helps a lot.

      jason

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    • #71730
      Garrett Fletcher
      Participant

      How do you monitor your sites when you have multiple sites? Do you use alerts, or monitoring software?

      Thanks,

      Garrett

    • #71731
      Russ Ross
      Participant

      Alerts do most of the work of monitoring for us.

      We also have a home grown web stats page that will give us an overview at a glance on demand.

      These days there is a global monitoring product that might save you the trouble of writing your own stuff to generate web pages like we did long long long ago.

      Our alerts have been refined to something that works good enough that we have gotten lazy and rarely take a look at the home grown web stats pages all that often anymore.

      Fortunately, the cloverleaf part of the integrations are mostly rock solid and 99% of issues are with the foriegn systems, network, or security.

      We got so comfortable and busy during one period that we discovered it had been 900 days since our last reboot, which we really like to do at least annually, so we are covered on backups if the machine doesn’t come back up.

      With hunderds of sites and over a thousand interfaces this is a good thing.

      If we had even a fraction of the trouble the foreign systems seem to have, we would be in hell.

      We run on AIX in case you are wondering and have since the beginning.

      Russ Ross
      RussRoss318@gmail.com

    • #71732
      Garrett Fletcher
      Participant

      Thanks, Russ. We are moving from Windows to RHEL soon. Hopefully we can forget about rebooting for 900 days when we are up on Linux too! 🙂

    • #71733
      James Cobane
      Participant

      Garrett,

      We run multiple sites and simply have multiple NetMonitor windows (1 for each site) running on the workstation in our Operations area.  We utilize alerts, and as long as the NetMonitor is active (can be minimized in the task bar), then Operations will get the Alert Window popping up on the workstation.  We also will trigger alerts to our on-call phone (using e-mail).

      Jim Cobane

      Henry Ford Health

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