ITERATE need help.

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December 12, 2014 at 4:17 pm #54492
jos phili
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Hello

I need to copy OBR 4.1 into OBX 3.1. However, when i finish making my iterate, a NTE segment comes in between my OBX segment and null my iterate. How can I stop this from happening?

OBR|1|402485836^HNAM_ORDERID||BMP^BMP|||20141211101800||||||5|20141211101816|Serum&Serum^^^^^Venous Draw|

OBX|1|NM|BMP^BMP^LN^BUN^BUN^HL7STDSRC||12|mg/dL^mg/dL|7-18^7^18|||? |F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST TESTTEST|^^^TEST TEST

OBX|2|NM|BMP^BMP^LN^Creatinine^Creatinine^HL7STDSRC||1.00|mg/dL^mg/dL|0.70-1.40^0.70^1.40|||? |F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST TEST|^^^TEST TEST

NTE|1||Effective 8/4/2014, the anion gap calculation no longer includes the potassium level.

OBX|3|NM|17861-6^CALCIUM:MCNC:PT:SER/PLAS:QN:^LN^Calcium Lvl^Calcium Lvl^HL7STDSRC||9.0|mg/dL^mg/dL|8.5-10.1^8.5^10.1|||? |F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST TEST|^^^TEST TEST

OBX|4|NM|2345-7^GLUCOSE:MCNC:PT:SER/PLAS:QN:^LN^Glucose Lvl^Glucose Lvl^HL7STDSRC||66|mg/dL^mg/dL|65-110^65^110|||? |F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST TEST|^^^TEST TEST
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- December 12, 2014 at 5:49 pm #81710
  Jim Kosloskey
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  Are you using BULKCOPY?
  
  Do you not want NTE segments in the OBX Grop to go to the receiving system?
  
  email: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com 30+ years Cloverleaf, 60 years IT – old fart.
- December 12, 2014 at 6:46 pm #81711
  jos phili
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  yes, I am using Bulkcopy. However, i need the nte segment to go out, and i need the obx 3.1 to show whats in obr 4.1
- December 12, 2014 at 6:54 pm #81712
  Jim Kosloskey
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  Give us a screen shot of your ITERATE and Actions inside.
  
  email: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com 30+ years Cloverleaf, 60 years IT – old fart.
- December 12, 2014 at 7:04 pm #81713
  jos phili
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  here is a pic of the iterate. really simple.
- December 12, 2014 at 7:21 pm #81714
  Jim Kosloskey
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  Show us the properties of the ITERATE.
  
  email: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com 30+ years Cloverleaf, 60 years IT – old fart.
- December 12, 2014 at 7:28 pm #81715
  jos phili
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  the property of the iterate
- December 12, 2014 at 7:41 pm #81716
  Jim Kosloskey
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  Now show us the innbound and outbound variant structures for this message type.
  
  email: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com 30+ years Cloverleaf, 60 years IT – old fart.
- December 12, 2014 at 7:54 pm #81717
  jos phili
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  Inbound
  
  OBR|1|402485836^HNAM_ORDERID||BMP^BMP|||20141211101800|||||||20141211101816|Serum&Serum^^^^^Venous Draw|
  
  OBX|1|NM|3094-0^UREA NITROGEN:MCNC:PT:SER/PLAS:QN:^LN^BUN^BUN^HL7STDSRC||12|mg/dL^mg/dL|7-18^7^18|||? Unknown|F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST|^^^TEST
  
  OBX|2|NM|2160-0^CREATININE:MCNC:PT:SER/PLAS:QN:^LN^Creatinine^Creatinine^HL7STDSRC||1.00|mg/dL^mg/dL|0.70-1.40^0.70^1.40|||? Unknown|F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST|^^^TEST
  
  NTE|1||Effective 8/4/2014, the anion gap calculation no longer includes the potassium level.
  
  OBX|3|NM|17861-6^CALCIUM:MCNC:PT:SER/PLAS:QN:^LN^Calcium Lvl^Calcium Lvl^HL7STDSRC||9.0|mg/dL^mg/dL|8.5-10.1^8.5^10.1|||? Unknown|F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST|^^^TEST
  
  OBX|4|NM|2345-7^GLUCOSE:MCNC:PT:SER/PLAS:QN:^LN^Glucose Lvl^Glucose Lvl^HL7STDSRC||66|mg/dL^mg/dL|65-110^65^110|||? Unknown|F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST|^^^TEST
  
  Outbound
  
  OBR|1|402485836^HNAM_ORDERID||BMP^BMP|||20141211101800||||||5|20141211101816|Serum&Serum^^^^^Venous Draw|
  
  OBX|1|NM|BMP^BMP^LN^BUN^BUN^HL7STDSRC||12|mg/dL^mg/dL|7-18^7^18|||? |F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST TESTTEST|^^^TEST TEST
  
  OBX|2|NM|BMP^BMP^LN^Creatinine^Creatinine^HL7STDSRC||1.00|mg/dL^mg/dL|0.70-1.40^0.70^1.40|||? |F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST TEST|^^^TEST TEST
  
  NTE|1||Effective 8/4/2014, the anion gap calculation no longer includes the potassium level.
  
  OBX|3|NM|17861-6^CALCIUM:MCNC:PT:SER/PLAS:QN:^LN^Calcium Lvl^Calcium Lvl^HL7STDSRC||9.0|mg/dL^mg/dL|8.5-10.1^8.5^10.1|||? |F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST TEST|^^^TEST TEST
  
  OBX|4|NM|2345-7^GLUCOSE:MCNC:PT:SER/PLAS:QN:^LN^Glucose Lvl^Glucose Lvl^HL7STDSRC||66|mg/dL^mg/dL|65-110^65^110|||? |F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST TEST|^^^TEST TEST
- December 12, 2014 at 8:00 pm #81718
  Jim Kosloskey
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  No I need to see the HL/7 Configurator Message Structure for the inbound and outbound variants not the actual messages.
  
  email: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com 30+ years Cloverleaf, 60 years IT – old fart.
- December 12, 2014 at 8:07 pm #81719
  jos phili
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  oh, okay.
- December 12, 2014 at 8:45 pm #81720
  Jim Kosloskey
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  You are using thee same variant for inbound and outbound?
  
  I am going to assume that is true.
  
  OK your OBX repeatss at the Group level (as I suspected).
  
  You need to reset the basis in your ITERATE to the proper point for the OBX Group, then set the Iteration Type to ‘Group’, then use something like %g1 for your variable.
  
  Then in the Actions inside the ITERATE, replace %s1 with a zero and place %g1 in the proper location of the address path.
  
  You are iteerating at the segment level but it is a group repetition.
  
  email: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com 30+ years Cloverleaf, 60 years IT – old fart.
- December 13, 2014 at 6:25 pm #81721
  jos phili
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  Thank you so much. i made those changes. It got the job done for OBX|3|, but OBX|4| wont take the changes. And it change the OBX|2| back to the original inbound message. my outbound message is coming out like the following:
  
  OBR|1|402485836^HNAM_ORDERID||BMP^BMP|||20141211101800||||||5|20141211101816|Serum&Serum^^^^^Venous Draw|
  
  OBX|1|NM|BMP^BMP^LN^BUN^BUN^HL7STDSRC||12|mg/dL^mg/dL|7-18^7^18|||? |F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST TESTTEST|^^^TEST TEST
  
  OBX|2|NM|BMP^BMP^LN^Creatinine^Creatinine^HL7STDSRC||1.00|mg/dL^mg/dL|0.70-1.40^0.70^1.40|||? |F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST TEST|^^^TEST TEST
  
  NTE|1||Effective 8/4/2014, the anion gap calculation no longer includes the potassium level.
  
  OBX|3|NM|BMP^BMP^LN^Calcium Lvl^Calcium Lvl^HL7STDSRC||9.0|mg/dL^mg/dL|8.5-10.1^8.5^10.1|||? |F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST TEST|^^^TEST TEST
  
  OBX|4|NM|2345-7^GLUCOSE:MCNC:PT:SER/PLAS:QN:^LN^Glucose Lvl^Glucose Lvl^HL7STDSRC||66|mg/dL^mg/dL|65-110^65^110|||? |F|||20141211101929||^Test^TEST TEST|^^^TEST TEST
- December 13, 2014 at 9:54 pm #81722
  Jim Kosloskey
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  Show me your changes including the ITERATE properties..
  
  email: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com 30+ years Cloverleaf, 60 years IT – old fart.
- December 16, 2014 at 1:41 am #81723
  Andre Houtzager
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  When you test it in the HL7 testing tool it will parsed as follow
  
  1(0).1(0).0(0).OBR(0) : >|1|402485836
  
  1(0).1(0).1(0).OBX(0) : >|1|NM|3094-0^
  
  1(0).1(0).1(0).OBX(1) : >|2|NM|2160-0^
  
  1(0).1(0).1(0).NTE(0) : >|1||Effective 8/4
  
  1(0).1(0).1(1).OBX(0) : >|3|NM|17861-6^
  
  1(0).1(0).1(1).OBX(1) : >|4|NM|2345-7^G
  
  So there are two groups and the iterate will pass two times.
  
  changing only outbound 1(0).1(0).1(0).OBX(0) and 1(0).1(0).1(1).OBX(0)
  
  As suspected:
  
  1(0).1(0).1(0).OBX(0) : >|1|NM|BMP^BMP^
  
  1(0).1(0).1(0).OBX(1) : >|2|NM|2160-0^
  
  1(0).1(0).1(0).NTE(0) : >|1||Effective 8/4
  
  1(0).1(0).1(1).OBX(0) : >|3|NM|BMP^BMP^C
  
  1(0).1(0).1(1).OBX(1) : >|4|NM|2345-7
  
  a solution is to do an OBX segment iteration in the OBX groups iteration
  
  The result will be what you want i think
  
  1(0).1(0).1(0).OBX(0) : >|1|NM|BMP^BMP
  
  1(0).1(0).1(0).OBX(1) : >|2|NM|BMP^BMP
  
  1(0).1(0).1(0).NTE(0) : >|1||Effective 8/4/
  
  1(0).1(0).1(1).OBX(0) : >|3|NM|BMP^BMP
  
  1(0).1(0).1(1).OBX(1) : >|4|NM|BMP^BMP
- December 16, 2014 at 1:23 pm #81724
  Jim Kosloskey
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  Remove repetition for OBX segment (the OBX repeats as a part of the group not as a segment) from the variant(s) then ITERATE at the group level and use that group position in the address path.
  
  Normally the OBX is also required but that is not affecting you.
  
  It is pretty common for me to see people modify the variant at the OBX group because they do not understand the OBX repeats as a part of the group not as a segment.
  
  email: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com 30+ years Cloverleaf, 60 years IT – old fart.
- December 17, 2014 at 8:31 pm #81725
  jos phili
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  Thank you for all your help.
  
  Solution:
  
  i had to remove the segment iterate. set my basis value to the group level. and change my variable to “%g1”. Unfortunately, my inbound and outbound HL7 variant message structure was a little funny. so i change the variant by removing the repeats and optional from OBX.
  
  Thank you again for your help. 😀
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