ICD10 again

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  • #53973
    Bob Schmid
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      for interface analysts…why “the fuss”

      I am getting alot of heat from my org on the CLoverleaf analysts supposedly needed to be a big part of ICD10 testing.?

      Based on my experience thus far and also the entries here……what am I missing? There doesnt seem to be much on the CLoverleafers to do…its primarily on the APp analysts and vendors.

      We pass ADT, Charges and abstract records:

      So i see our role being:

      1. Need to support connections up.

      2. Need to support minor research on messages not received for whatever reason

      3. may need to duplicate some clients and servers connections to support special ICD10 enviornments……but after the setup is done and the connection is brought up…….what is my “CONSULTANT” doing other than making money?

      Advice requested – “Wisdom in many counselors”

      😯     Oi Vey!    or should i say “OID vey”…but thats another rant  ðŸ˜¡

      Thanks!

      Bob

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      • #79728
        David Coffey
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          I agree, there is not much for an interface analyst to do with the move to ICD-10.

        • #79729
          Jim Kosloskey
          Participant

            For some transitionary period it is possible messages could contain both the ICD-9 and ICD-10 codes and so I would think some accomodations in the Xlates or Tcl code that transform the messages would be necessary.

            It is also possible the vendor will not send the ICD-10 code in the same location as the ICD-9 code and so the same thing – some accomodation inside Cloverleaf may be necessary.

            Like wise receiving systems may have differences regarding co-existance of multiple coding sets and their locations.

            As far as teting I suspect Integration Engineers will perform the same duties as with any Integration – that is validating messages received, transformed, and delivered properly.

            Those are my thoughts.

            email: jim.kosloskey@jim-kosloskey.com 30+ years Cloverleaf, 60 years IT – old fart.

          • #79730
            Peter Heggie
            Participant

              I also believe that the hype and accompanying expense are not equal to the difficulty of this project. I think it is overblown and consultants are making a lot of money. Certainly our HIS has to be modified and extensively tested, and our coding and billing systems have to be upgraded and tested.

              We expect that field sizes will change and some ICD10 values may be present where none were before, but basically it is yet another ‘medium to large’ project that has to be managed effectively. Unfortunately, it is easy to sell consultant services when ~the revenue stream is threatened~ (ominous music here).

              If your organization has a good project management culture then this should not be a problem.

              Peter Heggie
              PeterHeggie@crouse.org

            • #79731
              Bob Schmid
              Participant

                Good points.

                Initial testing out the shoot from our HIS (Mckesson Star)….HL7 adapts beautifully to what we received…  ICD9   , ICD9/10, ICD10..

                and the messages were received nicely into our HPF, PACS and Lab systems…..nicely means Ack’d filed …but not really scrutinized…nor full cycle …thru billing attempted

                Jim,

                Youre right….downstreams may need something unorthodox to be done.

                Bob

              • #79732
                Robert Milfajt
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                  Besides what you outlined as responsibilities, there are two things we’ve identified here that you need to be aware of:

                  1.  ICD-10 codes and descriptions are much longer then their ICD-9 counterparts, so you may need to tweak variants so that there is no truncation of data due to Xlates and field lenghts.

                  2.  Already brought up, but consider that some systems will send you both ICD-9 and ICD-10 codes in the same field (for us that’s 3M), so you may need to filter which one oges to a particular destination.

                  Good luck,

                  Robert Milfajt
                  Northwestern Medicine
                  Chicago, IL

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